Former member of the House of Representatives, Mr. Dino Melaye, is one 
whose voice or person cannot be hidden on any major issue. 
So, given his frontal role in affairs of the House of 
Representatives in the last assembly where he played diametrically 
opposite roles with Rep. Farouk Lawan, he became a subject of interest 
in the review of the unfolding $3 million bribe scandal in the House. 
Melaye also spoke on the spectre of corruption in the country among 
other issues. Excerpts:
THIS House seems to have resisted the lure to crisis more than  when you were were there. Can you say why?
The crisis was sponsored by the Integrity group headed by Farouk 
Lawan solely to humble Madam Patricia Etteh from office. But do not 
forget that it was the same Lawan who made it possible for Madam Etteh 
to become Speaker and when the same Lawan did not get what he demanded, 
that is becoming the Chairman of Appropriation Committee, he plotted to 
remove her from office.
Remember that Madam Etteh never stole one kobo. What happened was 
that all her budgets were anticipatory and Lawan used it against her 
because the committee he got was that of Education. He never liked it 
and the woman could not have done otherwise.
Integrity group died
The house Madam Etteh wanted to refurbish for N238million was 
renovated by Dimeji Bankole for N400million and the same house was 
eventually sold to him. So if I may ask, where is the integrity now that
 we have all known that the whole concept was laced with….
But the man tried…..
(Interjects) Tried in what manner. That Integrity Group died
 immediately after Etteh was removed from office or did you hear that 
the group ever held one meeting throughout the period it existed? Four 
weeks before the bubble burst I warned Nigerians that they should not 
celebrate Farouk yet with the fuel subsidy probe so his fumbling and 
wobbling in the course of carrying out his legislative functions is no 
surprise to us that know him too well.
Can you imagine that 14 years after as a national lawmaker, Farouk 
could descend so low to visit the residence of Femi Otedola a man he was
 probing? What a shame but Nigerians and Nigeria should be able to 
separate Farouk from the institution known as the House of 
Representatives because the 360 Reps took oaths individually.
The primary objective of the probe which is a resolution of the House
 must not be thrown into the garbage because as the Executive Secretary 
of an Anti-Corruption body I want the report implemented.
But why would legislators probe when they know that such ventures lead them to problems?
My brother there is no need for probes in the first place if 
legislators carry out their legislative functions with the fear of God 
and with every sincerity of commitment there will be no need for probes.
Functions of the lawmaker: The functions of the law maker are 
basically three, namely the act of adequately representing their people 
via the provision of the dividends of democracy; two, the act of making 
laws via motions and bills and three, oversight functions. There is no 
single MDA that if serious oversight function is carried out will not 
give account of all its activities. Once this is done and proper 
supervision of projects are carried out there will be no need for 
probes.
Probes are manifestation of satanic collaboration between the 
National Assembly and the Public Service. But if oversight functions are
 diligently carried out at appropriate times this will effectively 
police activities of the MDAs and that of the executive. When I was in 
the House they gave account of their stewardship (and) I remember we 
recalled one minister to give account of books bought twelve years after
 he left office that were still on the high seas. After proper 
investigation they returned the books. So proper oversight will 
substantially take away the stress of probes and these embarrassments 
are becoming too much.
Corruption seems to have assumed a larger than life proportion in 
Nigeria to the extent that the US has even described the fight against 
it in Nigeria as mere lip service. What is your take on this?
Jonathan has no plans to fight corruption in this country. That I 
know very well because he is a major factor in the arrogance of  Femi 
Otedola and this has been shown clearly. How can Femi Otedola disregard 
the resolution of the entire House of Representatives saying it is 
laughable? If I were to be the Speaker I would have summoned him for 
contempt but the President showed his negative trend by describing the 
resolution of the House on Fuel Subsidy Regime as mere resolution.
Celebration of mere resolution
But let me remind the President that it was this same mere resolution
 that made it possible for him to be Acting President which he 
celebrated and even invited them (legislators) to dinner in his house.
When Arunma Oteh was indicted by the Capital Market Probe, she was 
asked to step aside but when Mrs. Deziani was accused by the Fuel 
Subsidy Panel nothing was said and she was a primary actor as Chairman 
of the board of Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC and above 
all the minister that supervises the petroleum sector.  This is a clear 
case of personalizing offices and making the fight against corruption a 
child’s play.
The state of insecurity today in the country is alarming what do you think could be done to redress the situation?
It is very sad that our President could leave the country to attend a
 carnival in Brazil when this country was fast being swallowed by a 
conflagration that he has not been able to quench since assumption of 
office as Acting President. This is a clear indication of somebody that 
displays of insensitivity to the security of the people of this country.
To worsen the situation the spokesman of this government, Labaran 
Maku came out to say the president can rule from any part of the world 
confirming to us that Mr. President is a ruler not a leader. What 
Nigerians need is a leader not a ruler that can rule from any part of 
the world.
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